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When I first started reading fics about year ago I didn't even thought about bookmarking them and now I'm at complete loss how to find them. So if any fic that is J2 | NON AU | 10k words and more comes to your mind, please leave a link! :) Even the most classic ones, the most popular ones, doesn't matter :) :) I remember that a lot of them had Js living together and pining. Thank you!
Hey guys :)

I'm really interested in knowing if there are any Sastiel fics with Godstiel, which doesn't involve non-con? I'm particularly interested in knowing if there are any fics which involve Godstiel deciding to keep Sam as a pet or a consort or whatever, but which doesn't involve him torturing or forcing (raping) Sam. Dub-con is fine though. Alternatively, I will also accept Destiel, but I know there are a lot of fics in this pairing, so I'm mainly looking for Sastiel.
If there are no fics in that particular trope though, I'll happily take any Godstiel Sastiel (and Destiel, but mostly Sastiel) fics though, because I'm really curious as to how many of them there are in the fandom. Just no non-con please!
11 April 2016 @ 07:36 pm
I'm looking for a fic I read a few years ago and can't find now. In it, Jared and Sandy are married or engaged and Jared and Jensen start having an affair. The particular scene that I remember is Jensen and Sandy are in the cereal aisle at the supermarket and Jensen recognizes her but she has no idea who he is. She says something to Jensen about her husband/boyfriend likes a particular kind of cereal and Jensen says "so does my boyfriend", knowing that they're both the same person. For the life of me, I can't remember what fic it was or who wrote it. I have an infidelity fic saved, but it's not the right one.

Any help would be greatly appreciated because this has been driving me crazy for a while now :)

FOUND: in comments!
11 April 2016 @ 02:28 pm
I'm looking for a J2 fic where Jensen hates Jared because he thought Jared and his friend(s) hurt Jensen's little sister at a party. Years later, J2 are cast in Supernatural but Jensen still hates Jared who doesn't know why. A few seasons in, Jensen's sister visit the set and the whole misunderstanding is cleared up. Jensen apologizes but Jared is being his usual puppy self and he's all "Dude. Now we can be best friends!" Of course they fall in love.

Thanks for any help.
Looking for magical realism stories - like the wonderful cleflink's THE BEAT OF OUR NOISY HEARTS - starring Our Boys, in whatever configuration. (No Destiel, please.) Even the tag on AO3 only gave up 9 examples (9!).

The 'normal' supernatural quality of the Boys' work doesn't necessarily translate to this style/genre of writing. (Looked it up to verify: "[Magical realism]: an acceptance of magic in the rational world." Magic at which no one in the story blinks.) Examples would be Gabriel Garcia Marquez's books (esp ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF SOLITUDE) or John Crowley's books (LITTLE, BIG; the whole AEGYPT series) or, as already mentioned, cleflink's excellent story.

Any recommendations for this genre? Thanks so much.

Could someone help me locate this AU RPS fic which starts with Jared and Jensen broken up after Jared walked away from Jensen either at the altar or just before they got married? The story is mostly from Jared's POV and describes his reservations about the wedding, how it felt that they were going through the motions as opposed to making a commitment, and Jared not wanting to get married for the wrong reasons. If I remember correctly, Jensen is devastated, but Jared is not that much better off, as he's still in love with Jensen, just not ready for marriage.

All their friends have taken Jensen's side, but eventually Jensen and Jared talk through their differences and Jensen agrees that they should have never gotten married and that they should give their relationship another try. After many trials, they work through their problems and finally try to get married against the advice of friends and family, who think that Jared is going to bail again. - eta- found in the comments!

The second request is for authors (or stories) that do not use the nickname Jen, or where the nickname is used only as a tease to which Jensen threatens death upon whoever uses it, including Jared.

Thank you!
10 April 2016 @ 12:03 pm

I’m looking for a fic I read a few years ago. Jensen was taken by Jared as a war prize (or was offered to Jared by his family?). Jared’s country was much more civilized than Jensen’s, and Jared and his family were very kind to Jensen. But Jensen grew up in a barbaric (or maybe religious?) society, so he didn’t trust anyone and waited for a punishment. Misunderstandings happened. Chris may have been involved somehow.

Found: The War Prize by Meri
10 April 2016 @ 12:10 pm

I'm wondering if anyone knows a fic or two where Gabriel died after being stabbedby Lucifer in ep 5x19 and was reborn into another universe? (Similar to either The Last Archangelby inukagome15or the Vessel Verseby Alatarmaia)

Gen, het, or slash is fine. Self rec is also welcomed.

Thank you in advance!

Hi, all,

I'm trying to put together lists of all Jared/Jensen psychic, superhero/supervillain, and mutant power fan fics, new and old that are still available online. (No A/B/O or mpreg pls).

I have the first part of a list on my blog here.

The more the merrier.

Thanks in advance!
09 April 2016 @ 12:22 pm

I've been reading a few fics lately with Dean being on the wrong side of the law (history of theft, fighting, etc), and I am looking for recs that are similar.

The length doesn't matter. Destiel is a plus. No serial killer/murderer fics, though.
08 April 2016 @ 11:39 pm
This is a wincest classic, I believe, here in LJ: a series about Sam and Dean, and the one I really remember very vividly is when Dean runs away from Sam and Sam manages to track him down using his psychic abilities with help from Missouri. They then got tattoos where they could locate each other. The series also had a part about John's death and Dean's grief, and Sammy fixing the Impala. Another part of the series was when Dean visited Cassie and Sam was jealous and angsted on the beach. There was also one where, many, many years into the future, Dean died suddenly and had to watch Sam's grief for the day until Sam, inevitably, joined him later.

Somehow, I remember all of that, but not the goddamn titles or the author. Thank you in advance!
07 April 2016 @ 06:04 pm
Hello :)

Okay so, there was this certain AU fic that I read ages ago when I first started getting into the J2 pairing that I can no longer seem to find, or even remember the title to.

But I think it had Jared living next door to an omega!Jensen (may have also been a cat boy, I don't remember details), and Mark (Sheppard?) was his owner, and he was quite abusive (physically, sexually, emotionally, the whole nine) to Jensen. And Jared pretty much figured out what the deal was but he felt like he was crossing a line if he interfered but there was one day where Jensen was left out in the cold and hurt pretty bad and Jared couldn't take it anymore and pretty much brought Jensen to live with him/called the cops on Mark.

Does anyone might know what this fic was called? I'm hoping that someone has come across it in this community and loved it as much as I did because I surely can't remember what it was for the life of me.

Please and thank you~
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07 April 2016 @ 05:36 pm
Can't get much more vague than this - but I'm depending on the collective memory and research skills of this community, so -

Can't remember if the story was a/b/o or not - all I can remember is a scene late in the story where Jensen has been captured and caged, in a room full of other caged people. Jared, a leader of the resistance (?), shows up with a team of his people and rescues Jensen and some of the others. Seems like they had to smuggle them out.

I don't remember it being a slave!fic, although obviously my memory is not the best. And I'm certain it wasn't Sam/Dean, so it wasn't the one where Dean is captured and trained (brainwashed) into being a sex slave.

Any ideas? Thanks so much.
06 April 2016 @ 10:47 pm
I'm looking for a fic I read a long time ago and could have sworn up and down that I saved. However I can't find it anywhere and it's driving me crazy. Any help would be much appreciated.

Jensen is basically sold by his family to Jared in exchange for protection/power/peace something to that effect. I'm pretty sure its A/B/O with Jared being an alpha. Jared is already married? to Genevieve but she can't have children and resents Jensen's place in the palace and tries to poison him and Misha who had gone as Jensen's servant I believe.

That's all I remember but if someone could point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.
06 April 2016 @ 04:01 pm
I'm looking for curtain!fics or just general slice-of-life fics about Sam and Dean moving into the bunker and living in the bunker. Wincest or not, doesn't matter to me. Angsty or not. Gimme whatever you've got!
06 April 2016 @ 06:47 pm
Hi ! I'm looking for fictions where Sam is thrown into the past and see Dean child and what it has done for him or Sam see memories of Dean .
Thanks in advance !

I am looking for a specific fic, but I don't remember the title or the author. I remember that Dean has a rare illness and I think he has it all his life. He constantly has trouble breathing, and coughs out sputum(or phlegm?).

I think Sam is with Jess and is in Stanford. One day Dean comes to Sam, and Dean has to do his coughing out thing in front of Jess and she kind of freaks.

Sam helps Dean spitting with tapping his back. He's helped Dean since they were kids(until Sam left for Stanford).

I don't know if this is from this fic but, Dean is playing poker with some men, and one of them died suddenly.

I read this fic a long time ago. And I want to read it again. Please help me!

Hi! So I'm looking for a specific J2 fic. They live together, I think it's non au. Jared broke up with Sandy not so long ago and Jensen finds list of kinks or something they like in Jared's drawer that he and Sandy once made. Then he uses it to make Jared fall for him. I think there was something on the list like "I like seeing the person in my clothes" or "I like when the person touches my neck", that kind of things.
04 April 2016 @ 12:37 pm
(This is a general search, not looking for a specific fic)

Basically I'm looking for fics with the angels acting like a family (I tagged my preferred angels, but I'll accept any angels, honestly). Specifically, I'm looking for non-tragic angel family feels. As in the angels hanging around with each other before things go all to shit, or realzing they've been shits to each other and working on becoming a family again. AU's are fine. Stories don't have to be strictly about angel family feels, as long as it's in there. Any pairings or gen is fine.

Thanks in advance =).
04 May 2016 @ 05:41 pm
so i lost this fic and it's really bugging me- i'd be super grateful if anyone can help me find it. basically sam was alone in the bunker & tried out some new devils' traps or something and there was one that worked on humans, if i remember rightly. he gets stuck in it & it gradually weakens those trapped in it. cue dean bursting in just in time.
would be really happy to have help <3
03 April 2016 @ 11:20 pm
Hello lovelies, I randomly stumbled upon the story: Between Zzyzx and Henderson by redsirenfiction, wherein Jared is released from prison after a five year sentence, he's always been down on his luck until he meets ex-military man, Jensen. Jensen offers him a job and a place to stay and thus Jared finally gets the second chance he's always needed, and he also helps Jensen come to terms with some things from his own past. This story was glorious and now I need more of the same thing. So, anything where preferably Jared is down on his luck and needs a helping hand in the form of Jensen? Or visa versa really :)
Hello, are there any pre-series fanfics of little Dean and loving father John? I really want to read a happy Winchesters story where John either becomes a father to newborn Dean or is a father to kid!Dean while Mary is pregnant with Sam. I'd love a story that focuses mainly on John and kid!Dean's father-son relationship / bonding.

No Angst, Dark Theme, bad father John, and Major Character Deaths.

Thank you for your help! :D
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02 April 2016 @ 10:15 pm
I loved the latest episode, "Red Meat" but now I'm really wanting more stories with the same Romeo and Juliet type storyline where one of the J's thinks the other is dead and decides to follow them only to have the first J still be alive. Of course I want the second J to survive as well. Story could be Dean and Sam instead of Js (Wincest or Gen). Happy endings only please and please no WIPs.

Are there any of these types of stories out there?

Thank you in advance.
02 April 2016 @ 08:47 pm
I've recently read Misplaced Grace and Due Cause by FortinbrasFTW and it honestly has made me fall completely in love with Sam/Lucifer. However I'm not a big fan of dub/non-con or Evil!Sam which is fairly prevalent with this pairing (for obvious reasons).

So, yeah, anything with Sam/Lucifer where Sam is neither evil nor coerced into the relationship in any fashion. I also love (Semi?)Redeemed!Lucifer, but it's not a requirement.

I'd love stories that stayed in the Supernatural!Verse, but I'm fine with AU's if that's what you got.

Thanks in advance =).
Looking for any fics that delve more into Dean's MOC powers, and/or show Sam's reaction to them. The MOC arc in Season 9 really made a point to show us that Dean was developing supernatural powers (telekinesis and, to a lesser extent, resistance to demonic powers) but they kind of dropped that story off and never went anywhere with it, and Sam never knew anything about it. If anyone knows of ANY fic on this topic I'll be super greatful! :)
02 April 2016 @ 04:08 pm
Hello, I am looking for signs and limits by pinkisgoth it appears it was taken down, I have messaged the writer but so far have not gotten a response. I'm hoping someone has a copy they would be willing to share?
My email addy is blackwings01@gmail.com

Thanks in advance! Have a blessed day.

EDIT : found! Thanks anon.
I'm looking for a specific fic where Dean was a prostitute when he was younger and was picked up by Bobby (?), who took him in and gave him a job at his garage so that Dean didn't have to sell himself anymore. Grown-up Dean then meets Sam, who is a customer at the garage, and they start a relationship but Sam doesn't know that Dean has been abused.

I remember a specific scene where Sam tries to have sex with Dean, but Dean has a flashback and gives Sam a blowjob instead. Eventually, Sam learns about Dean's history and feels awful that he pressured him into sex at all.

There's a continuation of this story where they both find out that they're actually related, and even though Sam's family disapproves, they continue their relationship.

Any of this ring a bell? Thanks for any help I can get finding this!
02 April 2016 @ 07:36 pm
Hi. I wonder if anyone have any ebooks by britomart_is? She has written a lot of great Sam/Dean fic, but she doesn't have an AO3 account and I have found only one compilation by her in pdf. I want ebooks to read away from the laptop, preferably ePub, but I'll be happy with other ebook formats too. Thank you!
02 April 2016 @ 09:45 pm
Hi guys, can you please rec me any and all fics where one of the boys is a rich asshole? I prefer longer fics and the angstier, the better. Any pairing, but please no WIPS, a/b/o or mpreg.  You're all awesome, thank you!
Hi everyone :-)

I am looking for stories in which one character is hurt and/or betrayed by a person they loved and trusted. It doesn't matter if it's just a misunderstanding or the character doing the harm is truly evil. The longer, the better. Podfics are love. Please only Jensen/Dean, Jared/Sam, John/Jeffrey, no Castiel/Misha as a major character (I love Misha btw, just not in fics for some reason). Gen or slash, doesn’t matter. I feel like I have read and listened to pretty much everything out there, hope you prove me wrong!

I have listed a few categories of betrayal with examples to illustrate better. I have included links to stories which might be more difficult to google.

Watch out spoilers ahead!!!!

Hurt because of:
Abandonment (The Jared Padalecki Untitles, Do I seem bulletproof to you?)
Lies and manipulation (Someone you might have been)
Physical abuse, corporal punishment (pretty much anything by http://purple-carpets.livejournal.com/ – my goddess!).
sexual abuse (Swine http://archiveofourown.org/works/1126205, pretty much anything by leonidaslion)
Kidnapping and enslavement (The Golden Cage http://archiveofourown.org/works/5083330, Retail Therapy http://archiveofourown.org/series/248554)
cheating (A kept boy)
selfharm or suicide (In the mirror broken and indistinct, Have you seen him whom my soul loves http://archiveofourown.org/works/666813)

Thanks a million!

(omg, so many warnings to include, hope I got all down, and apologies if not!)
31 March 2016 @ 11:41 pm
Hey guys, I'm just wondering if y'all could rec anything for the following:

1) pre-season 8 - any story that deals with sam while dean is in purgatory, but without amelia.

2) meg+sam - stories where meg and sam are friends or act like siblings because of azazel's blood in sam (kind of like their relationship in hell's bells by safiyabat)

3) apologetic!dean - stories where dean genuinely apologizes to sam and tries to make it up to him (canon or otherwise)

I'd prefer these stories be gen or wincest, but I'll take anything (minus destiel).

31 March 2016 @ 02:01 am
I'm trying find a wincest fic where the boys where like 13/17 or something like that and they're fooling around on a bed and Sam gets off and then he kinda just folds to his knees by the side of the bed and says "use my mouth, dean"... It was super hot and well written! I know this is vague but any suggestions would be appreciated!!
30 March 2016 @ 11:40 pm
I don't have a lot of details for this one but I hope it rings a bell with someone.

In the fic I'm looking for, Sam dies (I'm pretty sure it's before the apocalypse ends). While in heaven he decides to keep fighting, so he finds and gathers all of the hunters in heaven to fight with him. There's a big battle at the end where Sam defeats Lucifer by becoming more powerful himself.

Does this sound like something anyone is familiar with?
31 March 2016 @ 07:23 am
Are there fics where Dean is like a catnip for angels? I mean... whenever an angel laid eyes on him, they would trying to woo/seduce him or something. And Lucifer is not an exception. I want to know what happened if Lucifer saw Dean and immediately feel something to him, I think it would hillarious.
1) I’m looking for a fic where I believe Dean or both of the brothers retires from hunting and are in a relationship with an angel, eventually they adopt a child/children. I believe Sam still hunts or just hunts every once in a while and eventually starts a relationship with an angel too. Sam and his angel eventually find a kid who is actually a creature (I want to say werewolf) and adopt it more or less, but when Dean sees the kid playing with his kid(s) he kind of flips out, in a “keep that monster away from my kid(s)” way. That’s what I remember. It was either Dean/Gabriel or Dean/Cas, with Sam with the other angel I believe (or possibly Lucifer).

I'm pretty sure the fic is not morganoconner's Peppermint Wind series, but was similar.

2) Does anyone have copies of dreamweaver37's fics? Wayback machine doesn't seem to have many of their fics archived and their LJ has been deleted. I liked the fic "Brandy" quite a bit and would love a copy of it if anyone has it, but will take anything anyone has. Thanks.

Edit: So apparently dreamweaver37 plagarized their fics, so if anyone could help me find the real stories and authors for their fics that would be super.

Summary for "Brandy": Gabriel was a rarity for his time; an independent bearer who lived by his own rules, and didn't bow to anyone's expectations. When he meets the sailor of his dreams, Sam sweeps him off his feet, and teaches him how deeply love can run, and how wrenching loss can be.
For a brief time, Gabriel had everything. How does he live without it when it's snatched away?
29 March 2016 @ 09:21 am
This is my first time posting here, and I'm sorry if I made any mistakes when posting this. Please remind me if I made any mistake, thank you :)

I've read stories where Michael or Lucifer fell and became Dean and Sam respectively and I've completely fallen for stories like that. I've gone through aceofannwn's rec list and am now wondering if there are other fics with this plot. So if you can rec some for me, I would be grateful :)

Thank you in advance!
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28 March 2016 @ 08:36 pm

Hello beautiful people!

I hope you could help find a j2 story I read a few years ago, this is what I remember:

It was an AU where Jared didn't have a Jensen in his world, but He kept dreaming about him and missing him . I Think the fates create this universe on purpose, so Jared could accept his feelings for Jensen, beause in multiple parralel universes He never did.

There was an scene where jared's dogs keep barking and looking for someone(jensen) and Jared said something like "you miss him too".

In any case, thanks beforehand.


28 March 2016 @ 03:48 am
Hey guys, I'm looking for stories where Adam becomes part of the Winchester family with Sam, Dean and John for whatever reason, and Sam takes to being a big brother like a duck to water. I've read one story thus far where Sam suddenly becomes the middle child and feels like he just doesn't fit in anymore, but I want something where he's so awesome at being a big brother and he adores Adam and visa versa.

Thank you! 
28 March 2016 @ 10:00 am
1) literally I'd love to read anything that is set in S8 and is bottom!Sam if there is sex. It feels like I've read all the work with a tag of "season 8" and "bottom Sam" on ao3 but I still want to read more.... So please recommend me some good fics that satisfy these two tags. It can be h/c or angst or whatever. I preferred wincest but I'm also good with gen. Feel free to recommend! ;-P

2)Any fic with protective!Dean and hurt!Sam? I know there are tons of fics out there so you probably could just recommend your favorite ones. Thanks!! again if there is sex I prefer bottom!Sam :-)

3)Fics where Jared at first,for whatever reason, thinks Jensen is not a good guy and is sacred of him, and then it turns out that Jensen is really kind and nice so Jared fall in love with him. For example I've read an a/b/o fic where the Js are forced to mate, omega Jared is afraid of alpha Jensen due to his experiences with cruel, unfriendly alphas before. Later he finds out that Jensen in fact is polite and gentle. bottom!Jared only please

Thanks in advance!!!!
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27 March 2016 @ 02:43 pm

1.) So I was wondering if there is any fics where Dean is evil temporarily in the story and he's not truly evil. Like Demon Dean, mind controlled, powers anything really.
2.) Where Sams evil and corrupts Dean and turns him to his side.

Thank you :D
I remember this story where John is abusive. Dean really does not like sam, thats what sam thinks about . But one day dean runs awzy but still came to check on sam who was locked in by john. Dean saves him and hugs sam for the first time. Any idea? Its a gen fic.
I'm looking for a specific fic set in a dystopian city in which all physical contact between people is banned. Jared lives there and Jeffrey Dean Morgan is his father (and a cop I think?) Danneel works as a sort of prostitute and Jensen is her friend. Jared and his friend meet her and Jared's friend goes off with her, but when cops show up Jensen and Jared run to Jensen's apartment. Books and music are also banned, but Jensen's apartment is full of them. They become friends and eventually get together.
27 March 2016 @ 03:25 am
This probably seems pretty vague in SPN - but I'm looking for stories about a specific journey. Preferably long, maybe case!fic, or journeys with some other goal.

Any or no ship welcome, for sure, slash, gen, femslash, het, rpf, fpf, Destiel, Wincest, as long as it's well written! Thank you!
26 March 2016 @ 05:42 pm
Hi Im new to the community. I am looking for fics that have any of the following critieria. It can be jared/jensen or sam/dean

I am looking for stories that fall in one of these categories.

-Jared/Jensen-Friends that turn out to fall in love with each other (It can be one avoidng the other friend when they realize they themselves are in love and thought they were straight before
-Jared/Jensen- Married either fight or divorce due to cheating but happy ending
-Jared/Jensen- Dont like each other either because the person being an ass is in love with the other and thats their way of coping.Or they fall in love later. Please dont include The Play Nice Provisio. I've already read it. Thanks :)
- Stories like True Colors---where someone is mentally handicapped or handicapped in some other way and they fall in love.
-Jared Jensen/Sam Dean Pretending to be a couple but fall in love
Sam/Dean-- High School--no younger than 15/16 either one. But I prefer stories where the older one tries fighting the feelings first or has an issue with it because they are brothers.
26 March 2016 @ 08:25 pm
Suddenly I remembered a fic that I really wanted to read but lost it!
It's an Alpha/Omega fic were Jared is a omega or beta and I think his car broke down and he accidently ends up on a breeding/mating ground where Aplha Jensen is running and he thinks Jared wants to get mated and he accidently rapes Jared.
Jared have a hard time accepting this and Jensen are feeling guilty, then later in the fic Jared goes away to college and I think Jensen gets sick because Jared is away.

Sorry for the jumbled description and bad english but please help me!!

25 March 2016 @ 11:31 pm
Hello! I remember very little about this fic, but I really hope someone can help me, I really want to re-read this story. So all I remember is Jared was in an abusive relationship and they had a child, when Jared starts dating Jensen, Jensen tells Jareds daughter that if someone bullies her she should fight back, and I remember Jared got mad, because he didn't want her to think violence was okay like her other father did. That is all I remember for sure.
I also may remember that the daughter wasn't really Jareds biological daughter but was the abusive mans daughter, I may be mixing that up from another story though! So I'm looking for anything that even vaguely sounds like this.
Please please please and thank you for any help!
26 March 2016 @ 02:41 am
I read a fic a while ago but now I can't remember what it was called or where it was. I think it was probably on ao3 but I could be wrong. It was a hospital AU where Cas was a doctor/surgeon and Dean was either a nurse or a technician. I can't remember if it was complete or WIP but I think it was a fairly long story. I think it was mentioned somewhere in the story or in the summary that Dean is so good at what he does and knows Cas so well that he's able to anticipate what tool Cas needs for surgery before Cas does/without being asked to pass it. The two of them tend to get paired up for surgeries together because no one else other than Dean is able to work with Cas because he is so demanding. It was Dean/Cas and also an all human!AU.
Any help that anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated :D
25 March 2016 @ 09:06 pm
Hey, guys! I was wondering if anyone could rec me some long Destiel fics. They can be canon, au, a/b/o, ect... They dont have to be complete, as long as they are still updated. Crossovers with Criminal Minds, NCIS, The Walking Dead, Dexter, and Bones would also be appreciated. Thanks!
25 March 2016 @ 02:24 pm
This J2 story that I'm looking for is about Jensen raping Jared every time he takes him out of the mental hospital or something.  Jared is ill in a way and he disappears.  He is married to Gen and they don't like each other.  They have kids.  The couple meets a realtor who is Jensen and Jared is in shock.  It was a new story last year.  It is a dark one!

Got the title but can't find the link.  It's called "It's A Very Beautiful Thing" by debrassteamyfiction.

Does anyone have a copy of this story or a link to it?